You Don’t Have a Tech Problem. You Have a Workflow Problem.

Most legal teams reach for AI to fix a problem that isn’t actually a technology problem — it’s a design problem.
In this episode, Liz sits down with Sheila Dusseau, Head of Global CLO Operations and Innovation at Ferring Pharmaceuticals, to unpack why bad processes just become faster bad processes once you add AI, and how design thinking can fix what tech alone can’t.
Plus: Maxx It / Kill It — Sheila on the 14-level approval process that needs to die, and why the real opportunity isn’t asking “what will AI replace” but asking where human judgment is being wasted on repetitive work in the first place.

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Liz Lugones

Liz Lugones is Mitratech’s Vice President of Value Experience. She is a transformational, human-centered leader with over 20 years of experience helping organizations modernize complex work by aligning people, process, data, and technology, bringing a Legal Maxxing™ mindset to elevate legal operations into a strategic advantage.

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